How 'Couple to Throuple' ended: our poly education job is cut out for us. More poly in the media. And our place in the wider world.
By Frankie De La Cretaz...Now, look—I’m not under the delusion that all representation must be good. Straight, monogamous people have been messy as hell on reality dating shows for decades. ... At the same time, I can’t help but wonder, as Carrie Bradshaw may have on Sex and The City, is bad representation better than no representation? In trying to make predominantly queer culture legible to cishet audiences, are we doing more harm than good? ... I fear that the answer is “no” to the former and “yes” to the latter, and that this portrayal of polyamory reinforces some of the worst stereotypes about the lifestyle and the people who participate in it.
...The contestants on Couple to Throuple are part of the current wave of exploration of non-traditional relationships that’s dominating mainstream culture. ... Non-monogamous content creators and influencers—as well as some of the singles who appeared on the show—have roundly criticized the format of Couple to Throuple for several things, including throwing inexperienced couples headfirst into what is notoriously the hardest relationship dynamic; not providing enough tools for the couples new to navigating non-monogamy; prioritizing the couples’ experiences and desires over the singles'; and not allowing the singles to have fully fleshed-out narratives or needs....But here’s the thing: This is the only kind of show about non-monogamy that could have been made for a mainstream audience. That’s because mainstream culture, while coming around to the idea of open relationships, still sees opening up a relationship as OK, as long as it’s in service of a primary (ideally straight) dyad. ... deprioritizing and therefore dehumanizing their other partners.When one of the singles on the show, Sanu, voices that she feels “dehumanized” to her couple, Sean and Brittne, they respond with anger. This experience is one they are hoping will strengthen their own relationship; they don't consider what Sanu is hoping her experience will be.Similarly, single Mia tells her couple, Dylan and Lauren, that she feels “objectified” and like the two of them are just looking for a threesome rather than trying to build an emotional connection with her—something another single the couple matched with earlier in the series had said as well. Dylan and Lauren are deeply offended and tell the camera that they need to focus on what’s best for them as a couple, first and foremost.Yet another single, Becca, says that she feels like “option C” for Maximo and Ash, and neither does anything to reassure her or tell her that she’s wrong.
Ash, Bella, Maximo
What we are witnessing is “couple privilege,” the prioritizing of an established couple, in real time. The show does nothing to help the couples (or the audience) learn about or unpack that dynamic. Couple privilege is “the idea that the established couple is the dynamic most important to preserve, often to the detriment of anyone else involved,” explains [relationship coach Melissa A.] Fabello. “This is exactly what feels dehumanizing and objectifying: the feeling that the singles are experiments for exploring the couples’ needs. The single, then, has less autonomy and is ultimately valued less than the established couple.” They are disposable once they stop serving the needs of the couple. ......Any argument that polyamory deserves the same messy representation as monogamy falls apart, however, when considering how Couple to Throuple could affect real-world practitioners of non-monogamy. ... [It] reinforces the worst preconceptions of polyamory and centers cis, straight couples looking to spice up their relationship. (It’s worth noting that the two queer men who come in as a couple are encouraged to consider adding a woman as their third, but none of the men in the straight couples is asked to consider adding a man as the third in their dyad.) It fails to offer any nuance about what non-monogamy looks like or how it can be tailored to fit individual relationships and the people in them.Even the show’s representation of triads is skewed, presenting a dynamic in which all three parties always go on dates and engage in sexual activity as a threesome. Fabello notes that, in reality, “most triads most healthily function when each dyad has space for themselves.” ......Most damagingly, however, Couple to Throuple fails to allow the “thirds” to be anything other than an addition to an existing partnership. Watching the singles be treated as disposable when they no longer serve the primary couple is not only heartbreaking, but it also sets up viewers in the real world to see this behavior as acceptable. ... (In a piece for Autostraddle, writer Gabe Dunn referred to the therapeutic sessions they participate in as “toddler’s birthday party activities this show wants us to believe count as therapy”). ...
...But damn, people are finally getting real on the finale platform. Where were all these straight-faced, grounded conversations in the resort??? Did the thirds really need this time away to suddenly speak their peace? It makes me wonder how the show would have gone if every few days the thirds had to spend a night alone.B and S immediately step forward, D does not. Sean tells Darrien that they do see her and hopefully, they can give her enough space within the throuple to grow too. Darrien smiles and then runs forward into their arms......It all comes down to Rehman and Ashmal. J says now’s the time to tell the boys how he really feels. Is it??? On this platform and not in the days and days you had lounging by a pool?? ...Throuples Post-Couple to Throuple
Now, an epilogue someone made on iMovie in 30 seconds.Lauren, Dylan and Jess continued to “flex their throuple” IRL, but broke up because of distance two months after the show ended. (It’s airing almost exactly one year later.)DSB dated in LA, but career commitments forced them into an amicable end. Sean proposed to Brittne. They’re no longer in touch with Darrien.Maximo and Ash continue to explore the NYC poly scene. Becca never wants to be a second or third option again.Corey, Denyse, and Wilder are still a throuple and Denyse is moving to LA soon.Jonathan, Rehman, and Ashmal were together for three months. Ashmal then broke up with Rehman. (Who wrote this??) Jonathan and Rehman stayed together, but then they also broke up. A and R remain best friends but neither of them talk to Jonathan.According to social media, a large swath of the singles still hang out. (I bet there was a whole other show happening at wherever they were kept.) Corey and Wilder hang out with Becca. The couples are all largely still in touch with each other. Lauren and Dylan are having a baby. Ashmal and Rehman host watch parties for the show in Chicago. And I’m about to see everyone at the finale wrap party tonight in West Hollywood.Stay tuned for updates. It seems some of these people are still looking for a third.
The show is among the first to represent polyamory to a mass audience. Relationship experts say the showrunners could have done better.
By Lexi Inks...But experts say there is quite a lot that the Peacock original series Couple to Throuple has gotten wrong about polyamory....According to sexologist and sex educator Goody Howard, a throuple dynamic, commonly referred to as a triad in polyamorous communities, may not have been the best structure for a TV series to represent ethical non-monogamy. She feels Peacock went with it because of its monogamy-adjacent nature: "It's probably the easiest one for non-poly/monogamous people to understand," she says. But in reality, she explains, "there is no one way to be poly. Throuples often struggle with power dynamics and hierarchies more than some other poly structures."Another issue experts noticed with Couple to Throuple was the immediacy with which the throuples engaged sexually. ... When the couples arrived on the island, they were greeted with beds made for three people.... Rather than jump into bed with the single they just met, the couples could have been given more time to connect and form trust and emotional intimacy with them.One way that some polycules – a group of people connected by a network of polyamorous relationships – do this is by choosing a dynamic that fosters mutual respect and trust, such as kitchen table polyamory. ... This dynamic looks like a community or even a chosen family, Stewart says. Everyone has some degree of involvement in each other's lives, and KTP usually encourages an environment of open communication and support....
"When you are dealing with specifically throuples, which is one of the hardest dynamics in polyamory... that was the challenging part for everyone involved. As Scott mentioned, we were worried about them all.
...[The] increased visibility is, for the most part, fantastic. It normalizes alternative ways to have meaningful, loving relationships. But one troubling trend that’s come with this increased visibility is the idea that polyamory takes “a lot” of work—that it comes with stress, anxiety, overwhelm, and a need to “live life on hard mode.” ...I’m sorry, but no. Life, in general, is hard enough.... The last thing any of us need is for our relationships to be complicated, and polyamory is no exception. What people don’t seem to get is that non-monogamy doesn’t have to be that much more complicated than monogamy. If it were, I wouldn’t have been doing it for this long.
Margie RischiottoDon’t get me wrong, like in any relationship, polyamory comes with challenges. ... But it does not have to be life on hard mode. And if it is, the relationship dynamic or arrangement you’re in is probably not for you.Claiming that polyamory is overly difficult is damaging. It discourages people from exploring it because it makes it sound exhausting and normalizes a level of unhealthy complexity that feels like, for lack of a better word, drama.If a poly relationship still feels unnecessarily hard after a few months of trying to make it work, that probably means you should try something different—again, just like anyone in a monogamous relationship would. And that’s okay! Break up and enter a different polycule or arrangement. Date people who want the same things you do. Find the thing that feels right and easy, because ultimately, that’s how a relationship should feel, no matter the structure. ...There’s also nothing wrong with just being monogamous. ... It’s easy to be drawn to the scene for reasons unrelated to actually being poly. It’s a more reflective, sex-positive, kinky counterculture. But you can love these elements of poly culture and not actually want your boyfriend to go on dates with other people. You don’t have to be poly to have poly friends, or be sex positive, or practice kink. Admitting it’s just not for you might be the healthiest thing you can do if it doesn’t feel natural, or if the pros just aren’t worth the cons.
As long as the world views polyamory as 'the hot new thing,' polyamorous people like me will struggle to have their very real relationships taken seriously.
Aly Lim
By Abby MossI'm in a throuple, and when I tell people about my polyamorous relationship, they often say something like, "Wow, cool," or "Oh, how modern!" And I get it. Polyamory is everywhere right now; it seems to be having a moment. ......I've been asked if I'm in a throuple to be edgy or different, or for shock value. And that annoys me. I've been in a committed throuple for five years now. My partner Paul* and I have been together for 13 years. We met the old-fashioned way, in a bar. Then, five years ago, we joined Feeld, a dating app for alternative dating styles, often used by people looking for threesomes and more serious polyamorous setups. At the time, we weren't looking for anything serious, but when we met Andrea* a month before COVID-19 hit, we knew there was a special spark there. ...It felt easy. We just got each other. You know that saying "When you know you know"? Turns out it applies to throuples, too.Today, my relationship isn't very different from any other "traditional" relationship you might see. My partners and I live together. We go to family events together. We're incredibly lucky in that our families have been wonderfully accepting of our relationship — not everyone is so fortunate. We go on holidays together. We remind each other to feed our cats. We love and support each other. My relationship is not an experiment, and it's not a trend.Calling something trendy implies that it's going to pass. That it is, as an article in The Atlantic unhelpfully called it, a "fad." But it's not a fad. It's not even new. ...That said, it's exciting to see polyamory becoming more widely acknowledged. ... Representation matters, and the more polyamory is talked about, hopefully, the more polyamorous people will feel able to live out in the open.
...It seems like some people are trying polyamory on for size right now — which is fine if you're doing it to explore a new relationship style — but simply following a trend probably isn't a great reason. And it certainly wasn't mine. My partners and I are talking about buying a house in the next few years. We might even get a dog. ... The future will see us continuing to support one another in our careers, going on more fabulous adventures around the world, and continuing to grow together as a throuple and as individuals. But as long as the world views polyamory as "the hot new thing," polyamorous people like me will struggle to have their very real relationships taken seriously.
Savanna RuedyBy Phoebe McIlwraithI’ve always joked that I’m a serious slow-burn romance girl who was born in the wrong era, but I haven’t let that stop me from the possibilities of casual dating.... I’ve cycled through the main dating apps — Tinder, Bumble and Hinge. However, a new name soon appeared on my radar: Feeld. ...A pattern began to appear....It quickly seemed like every other young person in the Inner West [suburbs of Sydney] was aligned to some type of non-monogamous dynamic. As a queer person who has been chronically online since the 2010s, [such things] didn’t spook me, but the overwhelming saturation within my age group and geographic space honestly did surprise me....However, I’ve begun noticing tension when trying to talk through relationship dynamics and possible boundaries. ... In a dynamic where I thought it was encouraged to communicate, I was feeling overwhelmingly shut down. ... I started to wonder whether questioning what was happening in the non-monogamous pairings I found myself in would make me a traditionalist, a prude, a conservative or even a “bad queer”....[Sex therapist Christine] Rafe ... said what was happening in my relationships was not how ethical non-monogamy is meant to be practised. She says, “The thing that's concerning is that if you're in a non-monogamous community and you are ethically engaging in non-monogamy, consent and boundaries are like number one. If you're speaking to someone who's like, “I'm non-monogamous” and when you talk about boundaries says you’re “being traditionalist” or “being judgemental” etc., those people are not engaging in ethical non-monogamous practices.”...Rafe advises,Get really clear about your intention for dating and for exploring non-monogamy. Some people, they feel that they have to explore non-monogamy if there's so many people saying, “Yeah, this is my lifestyle”. [Ask yourself] actually, what do you want from a dating experience or from a relationship? Are you really open to non-monogamy? If so, what type, like what does that look like? Is it monogamish; is it poly? Is it casual sex, or having one predominant partner? We don't want to end up in a situation where we're being coerced into a non-monogamous relationship, with boundaries that we don't necessarily feel comfortable with, because that's what we feel is available to us.Rafe also cautions people to not feel restricted by all the labels. “Relationship agreements are unique to each relationship.... Have the hard conversations, sit down and make time for open discussions. ...
I was struck by another opinion by a monogamous writer dismissing a valid — and considered — relationship structure. ... Mr. Hamid concluded that the challenges of polyamory “aren’t necessarily good.” I beg to differ, as would the large polyamorous community in the area. Is polyamory “difficult to navigate,” as Mr. Hamid accused? Well, aren’t all relationships? One need only look at the divorce statistics and the number of men and women who admit to cheating to see that nonconsensual non-monogamy has been part of our lives for centuries. Polyamory is ethical non-monogamy. All parties consent to the relationship structure, unlike the wink and nod of affairs and the broken marriages and broken hearts that result from cheating.I would like to see The Post give voice to someone who has lived polyamory. ... We are living high-functioning lives, working regular jobs, raising children and serving in the PTA. We are your neighbors, co-workers, students, bosses, lawyers and mechanics.Mr. Hamid asks whether people are really practicing polyamory. Yes, we are. Polyamory is here to stay.Natalie Davis, Arlington
Brian Rea / NYTLearning to love two women at once — one living with Alzheimer’s — is a challenge and a blessing.By Townsend DavisLast Thanksgiving I was seated at the head of the dining room table with my family gathered around, enjoying our traditional feast.... My sons, 18 and 20, piled their plates high. ... I held the hand of my love, who was seated next to me with tears in her eyes as she looked across the table at a woman, her contemporary, who was eating with the help of a caregiver.That woman is my wife, Bridget, aged 59.Before Alzheimer’s devoured Bridget’s neurons along with her essence, Thanksgiving was her favorite holiday. Now, a decade into the disease, my wife had no idea what Thanksgiving was or who we were. The caregiver had to keep reminding her to stay seated. That evening was also the first time she and my new partner ate at the same table.None of us could have imagined this scenario until recently. ...-----------------------------...Eventually, Bridget required round-the-clock care at home. Forced from our bedroom by her incessant agitation, I created a separate space in our home for me to sleep and live in.“Please go find someone else,” she urged me shortly after her diagnosis.But I dismissed the idea out of hand. I didn’t want to imagine life without her. ...Deb, the woman whose hand I was holding at Thanksgiving, was married for 25 years before divorcing in 2018. ... I had met her 14 months earlier on a surf outing in Montauk in the wake of Hurricane Fiona. She had driven to the beach that morning after a mutual friend had suggested we meet, concerned that we both lacked companionship.The waves were big that day; the ocean cold. ...-----------------------------...Deb has turned out to be an incredibly capable and understanding partner. She doesn’t question the time I spend with my wife and children. I still care for my wife as before, and I keep my wedding ring on. I am immeasurably happier. I can love two people fully and not feel conflicted.Deb and I were open about our relationship with our family and friends. There were complications, of course. Deb had two children living with her who were understandably reluctant to accept me until the relationship proved serious. I had a high school senior and my wife at home. But we all adjusted.My children seemed grateful to have a woman in their lives who understood the advantages of a mattress topper on a college bed. When Deb got in a serious car accident, her sons and I descended on the emergency room, cracking jokes to keep up her spirits and eating takeout hamburgers on the hospital floor. My parents-in-law gave us their blessing, with my wife’s mother saying, “It’s about time.”I even tried to explain to Bridget that I had found another partner, but I would always care for her at home.“I think that’s a good idea,” she said, but I’m not sure how much she understood.At Thanksgiving, holding Deb’s hand, I thought I knew why she was in tears. She had just watched my older son greet his mother by saying, “It’s me, William.”Bridget did not react at first. She did return his hug, albeit clumsily, after an excruciatingly long pause. I had seen similar scenes dozens of times, and I’d told Deb about them, but she had never witnessed Bridget failing to respond to her own child.-----------------------------“I know why we can’t be married,” [Deb] said. “And I accept that this is our reality. But it’s still hard in some unnamable way I feel bad even mentioning.”“I feel as if I am marrying you every day with what we do for each other,” I said.As usual, without much planning, we had prepared and served the meal — our first Thanksgiving together — at my family home with ease, almost wordlessly. Deb had even taken it upon herself to get the family recipe for the “glop” from my mother-in-law, who could not make it this year because of her own husband’s illness. (“Your father is dying of cancer,” I had tried explaining to Bridget, to no avail.)It was the same dance Deb and I have been doing since that walk on the beach. “The Beautiful Now” is our shorthand for this dance, a daily affirmation of our commitment to each other in which pain, comfort and joy intertwine. On that night, I saw no reason to do anything but embrace it all.
By John MurawskiThe gender question has been a cultural wedge issue for many years now, but there are signs that the media is moving onto a new topic: polyamory....With legal recognition increasingly more likely, and with scholarly backing from social science journals and law journals, all that might be required to set off a national culture war would be for an enterprising Republican lawmaker to propose legislation outlawing polyamory. That’s how trans rights exploded on the national stage in 2016 when the Charlotte, North Carolina city council legalised trans access to public accommodations, and the state legislature responded with HB2, the infamous bathroom bill.
Late night in Kiev on a piece of good news |
Here was a country with a tragic history that had at last begun to build, with great effort, a better society. What made Ukraine different from any other country I had ever seen—certainly from my own—was its spirit of constant self-improvement, which included frank self-criticism. For example, there’s no cult of Volodymyr Zelensky in Ukraine—a number of Ukrainians told me that he had made mistakes, that they’d vote against him after the war was won. Maxim Prykupenko, a hospital director in Lviv, called Ukraine “a free country aspiring to be better all the time.” The Russians, he added, “are destroying a beautiful country for no logical reason to do it. Maybe they are destroying us just because we have a better life.”
Ukraine's LGBT military unicorn. The thorns and barbed wire represent old restrictions now being cut away. |
Women defenders in a trench in the Donetsk
region |
Whenever people write to my office [asking why we are supporting Ukraine,] I answer, 'Google Sudetenland, 1938.' We could have stopped a murderous dictator who was bent on geographic expansion…at a relatively low cost. The result of not doing so was 55 million deaths.
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IMHO, other than being charged with serious crimes, it is better to have bad representation than no representation. As P. T. Barnum famously said, "say anything you like about me, but spell my name right."
People won't be seeing C2T in a vacuum. They'll be seeing the plethora of thoughtful articles, too. I doubt that monogamy is taking a hit from all the bachelor shows.
For any group or practice that is outside the social norms there is an arc that is followed in the arts/media. First there is no representation, then there are smarmy sterotypes, then there the sideckick or subplot phase, then there is work about them, and then work by them. At the end of the process, whatever the name the no one dared to speak a generation or two ago becomes commonplace.
...hey...no need to educate the world...just live and love on your terms...
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